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Nathan Cohen's avatar

Most people don’t realize is the enormous amount amounts of indirect cost. School buildings built by the local goverments or mifal

Hapyis. Shuls and schools and mens milkvas without water meters and with electricity covered by municipalities. Extra highly subsidized bus lines. Of course, the recent designation of many of their neighborhoods as 50% off zones for monthly rav kav passes. Busing for schools and events that are billed to the municipalities or the mot. Enormous programs of gift cards that are funded through various municipal or governmental program. Neighborhoods and infrastructure built just for them. Enormous black economies that are not investigated in these neighborhoods. And more.

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I wrote a comment there https://newsletter.amitsegal.net/p/its-noon-in-israel-will-israel-be/comment/200644770

Specifically, I think:

(a) The extrapolation to the future is silly.

(b) The root cause of the Israeli/Palestinian crisis is demographic and the charedim are really the only ones doing anything about. I think (and it seems Ben Gurion thought) that's worth an army exemption, and probably a few billion dollars.

(c) That said, it's hard to convince people of that anyways, and government payments to kollelim make no sense anyways. I think they are mostly cut now, and that should be extended forever.

(d) Charedim must be integrated into the economy, but level-headed people (including many nonreligious) realize that the army issue is making this impossible. Whatever you may believe morally, the fact is that the vast majority of charedim won't serve. It's not happening. I understand the emotional aspect, unfortunately, but rationally this craziness must stop. We must get to work on integrating charedim into the economy and harping on the draft makes this impossible.

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