Meciras Chametz is mentioned in the Mishnah in Pesachim st the beginning of Perek Kol Shaah and was implemented by Acharonim as a means of helping Jewish merchants in the liquor industry and related businesses. many refrain from selling ChametzGamur and specify where such Chametz can be found in their homes or who may have access to Chametz if they are away R Daniel Feldman writes about the legitimacy of Meciras Chametz in his book about subterfuge in Halacha
I do not sell chametz at all. It's a joke. They'res no justification for keeping bread and pasta over Pesach especially if you know no non Jew is going to take it.
Do you prepare an Eruv Tavahilin or view the Heter Mecirah during a Shemittah year or Prozbul with the same perspective ? All are deeply rooted within the power of Chazal to interpret the Torah and enact rabbinic ordinances so that we don’t transgress Issurei Torah
I'm quite sure the commonly accepted opinion is that no one is chayav for chametz owned by a company they have stock in and so there is no need to include it in the sale. As I have no control, access, or authority over the chametz of a company just because I own some stock, I can't be said to be the owner.
That's possible - although there are many flavors of securities besides common voting shares - with each one potentially presenting different halachic issues. But the fact that so many mechiras chometz contracts these days include securities, leaves me unconvinced that all rabbis agree.
Good point. But since such bittul has to be done at a particular time, and (if I understand correctly) it is of Biblical, not Rabbinic origin, I guess that makes it both a bittul zman and a bittul Torah. 😉
About the (relatively) recent origins of the practice of selling chametz, I've read in ostensibly reliable sources that the practice first arose only when Jews entered the liquor business. Because it became impractical (or impossible) for such merchants to dispose of their entire inventory every year before Pesach. Does that seem accurate to you?
Meciras Chametz is mentioned in the Mishnah in Pesachim st the beginning of Perek Kol Shaah and was implemented by Acharonim as a means of helping Jewish merchants in the liquor industry and related businesses. many refrain from selling ChametzGamur and specify where such Chametz can be found in their homes or who may have access to Chametz if they are away R Daniel Feldman writes about the legitimacy of Meciras Chametz in his book about subterfuge in Halacha
I do not sell chametz at all. It's a joke. They'res no justification for keeping bread and pasta over Pesach especially if you know no non Jew is going to take it.
Do you prepare an Eruv Tavahilin or view the Heter Mecirah during a Shemittah year or Prozbul with the same perspective ? All are deeply rooted within the power of Chazal to interpret the Torah and enact rabbinic ordinances so that we don’t transgress Issurei Torah
1. I do make an eruv tavshilin
2. I view heter mechirah as absurd
3. I do have a prozbul
I'm quite sure the commonly accepted opinion is that no one is chayav for chametz owned by a company they have stock in and so there is no need to include it in the sale. As I have no control, access, or authority over the chametz of a company just because I own some stock, I can't be said to be the owner.
That's possible - although there are many flavors of securities besides common voting shares - with each one potentially presenting different halachic issues. But the fact that so many mechiras chometz contracts these days include securities, leaves me unconvinced that all rabbis agree.
Yes, I sell my חמץ.
But in general, I prefer to be expansive rather than contractual.
That's fair. Although you can also aim for *minimalist* by just doing a heartfelt bittul. :)
Good point. But since such bittul has to be done at a particular time, and (if I understand correctly) it is of Biblical, not Rabbinic origin, I guess that makes it both a bittul zman and a bittul Torah. 😉
About the (relatively) recent origins of the practice of selling chametz, I've read in ostensibly reliable sources that the practice first arose only when Jews entered the liquor business. Because it became impractical (or impossible) for such merchants to dispose of their entire inventory every year before Pesach. Does that seem accurate to you?
I think I remember hearing something like that, too.