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Ash's avatar

This is precisely the point.

Nowadays, in most yeshivish mesivtos the day ends at 9 or 10 pm for ninth graders. That's because the hanhala or the system at large is worried about what the boys would do if they had free time. Better they stay in yeshivos.

The same is true with davening for adults. The adults need to work, but every second they don't need to would be better if they were learning or davening. Hence the ever increasing issur of bitul Torah.

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Solomon J. Behala's avatar

What happens when they want to vote on the mechitzah? That's post-Talmudic, not even mentioned in Shulchan Aruch.

What happens when they want to vote on women having aliyos? The Gemara says it's כבוד הציבור, so why can't they be mochel on their kavod?

What happens when a group of people who consider themselves Israeli demand a vote on keeping two days Yom Tov?

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