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Daas Yochid's avatar

This is precisely the point.

Nowadays, in most yeshivish mesivtos the day ends at 9 or 10 pm for ninth graders. That's because the hanhala or the system at large is worried about what the boys would do if they had free time. Better they stay in yeshivos.

The same is true with davening for adults. The adults need to work, but every second they don't need to would be better if they were learning or davening. Hence the ever increasing issur of bitul Torah.

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I use several siddurim with regularity and the fastest one, ironically the heaviest one because of all the notes and historical background, is the siddur harambam. Aside from his musaf non-repetition, you cut out so many things that aren't mandatory that what you're left with is a standard 45m - 1h service on normal Shabbatot and perhaps a 2 hour service on hag when there is extra to do (think hokey pokey with your lulav aka hoshanot, my bane for hol hamoed sukkot workdays).

And the same people that tell me I'm a kofer and this and that for using or preferring it are the same people who sit and pretend to listen and learn a daf from makkot or beitzah to eat meat in the 3 wks.

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